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Posts tagged al-Jarh wal-Ta’dil
Sh. Bin Baz’s letter in defense of Sh. Abdur-Rahman Abdul-Khaliq
Jan 11th
In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the Dispenser of Mercy
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Office of the Presidency of Islamic Research and Legal Verdicts
The Office of the General Mufti
From ‘Abdul-’Azeez bin ‘Abdullah Ibn Baaz, to the respected and honourable sons from the callers to Allah – Glory be to Him – in the country of Kuwait, may Allah assist them in that which contains His Pleasure, and increase them in knowledge and Imaan, Ameen.
Salaamun ‘Alaikum wa-raHmatullahi wa-barakaatuhu, to proceed.
Fatwa of the Lajnah on Dealing With Groups
Jan 7th
The following is taken from Fatawa al-Lajnah ad-Da’imah (2/238-239):
Q: The groups and sects that are present today, I mean: al-Ikhwan al-Muslimun, Jamaa’at at-Tabligh, Jama’at Ansaar as-Sunnah al-Muhammadiyyah, al-Jam’iyyah al-Shar’iyyah, the Salafis, and those called al-Takfeer wal-Hijrah…These and other groups are all present in Egypt. My question is, what should be the position of the Muslim towards them? Does the following hadith of Hudhayfah apply to them: “So avoid all those groups, even if you have to bite on to the root of a tree until death reaches you in that state”? It was reported by Muslim in the Sahih.
Grassing your brother to the Mashayikh
May 29th
Shaikh Ahmad Bazmool said: And the issue that follows is that the Salafi youth should know that asking the scholars and relaying to them the conditions of the callers is not from searching for the mistakes (of one’s brother). Rather it is from taking knowledge from its people and from commanding the good and prohibiting the evil. Therefore, if a person becomes known and matters which conflict with the way of the Salaf become apparent from him it is obligatory to ask and leave the clarification of such a person’s condition to the scholars so that others would not deviate.
المسألة التي تليها هي
أن يعلم الشباب السلفي أن سؤال العلماء وتبليغهم عن أحوال الدعاة ليس من باب تتبع العورات ولا الزلات بل هو من باب أخذ العلم من أهله وباب من الأمر بالمعروف والنهي عن المنكر فإذا ظهر شخص وظهرت منه أمور مخالفة للسلف فلابد من بيان حاله للعلماء وسؤالهم عنه حتى لا يزل غيره من النا
http://musamills.wordpress.com/2011/01/12/informing-the-scholars-about-callers/
Very interesting remarks. If you cross Abu Khadijah and friends, they will report you to their noble flag carriers of Jarh wat-Ta’deel, as they recently reported a brother for “taking his wife to the movies”!
This is quite rich given the “serial marriage” antics (amongst other shameless behavior) many members of the Elite Salafi Club get up to!
Critiquing Innovators: The Way of the Salaf vs. the Hizbi Way
Dec 24th
Adapted from Kashf al-Haqa'iq al-Khafiyyah'Inda Mudda'i al-Salafiyyah (Exposing the Hidden Realities of the Fake Salafis) by 'Abd al-Aziz al-'Usaymi, Makkah, KSA
The following are some characteristics of the Hizbi methodology:
- Their severe attacks against te scholars and sincere du’at, seeking to drop them “off the Manhaj” and declare them “Qutbis”, Hizbis”, “Takfiris”, etc.
- They are deep in partisanship and they call to it under the slogan of Salafiyyah.
- A knee-jerk reaction to all views that conflict with their ahwa and the principles that they call to
- They sense that most people – to say nothing of the learned amongst them – consider their views strange.
As a result of this false principle and their extreme application of it, they end up contradicting the Manhaj of the Salaf for critiquing others and passing judgment on them. In fact, their methodology is in clear conflict with the principles employed by Shaykh al-Islam ibn Taymiyyah in his writings and fatawa, may Allah have mercy on him, to pass judgment about innovators. This is even though their opponents are not innovators; they are from Ahl as-Sunnah! You can judge for yourself by comparing his principles with the reality of their unjust refutations against their brothers from the Du’at and scholars whom they have attacked without any justification except following Hawa and the desires of their diseased souls.
The Principles of Shaykh al-Islam for Passing Judgment Against the Innovators
These principles are drawn from the book of Dr. Ahmad al-Hulaybi, Usul al-Hukm ‘Alal-Mubtadi’ah ‘Inda Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (The Principles for Passing Judgment on Innovators in the View of Ibn Taymiyyah), published by Dar al-Fadilah:
- Seeking excuses for the people of piety and virtue any time they fall into innovation out of Ijtihad, and interpreting their problematic statements in the best light possible. (Abul-Hasan al-Ma’ribi was declared a heretic by Rabee al-Madkhali for espousing this principle)
- When a Mujtahid errs – whether in fundamental or subsidiary issues – he should not be deemed sinful. Even more so, he should not be declared deviant or a disbeliever.
- Excusing the innovator on account of his ijtihad does not mean consenting to the innovation he fell into, or permitting others to follow him in it. It is obligatory to rebut his innovation if needed while maintaining proper adab.
- Not passing judgment on the one who fell into innovation that he is from Ahl al-Ahwa’ wal-Bida’ or having enmity for him on its account, except if the innovation is well-known to the scholars of the Sunnah and severe.
- No one who has fallen into error in creed or something else can be judged to be doomed for certain, nor can any group be judged for certain to be from the Seventy-Two Astray Sects unless its error is severe.
- Caution must be exercised in regards to studying the state of a person who has done something that results in kufr or fisq before judging him to be a kafir or fasiq, lest he be judged kafir or fasiq without establishing hujjah against him.
- Efforts should be made to bring the hearts together and to unify the ranks. Care should be taken not to let differences in secondary issues of Aqidah, etc. be a cause for breaking the bonds of brotherhood and loyalty and animosity (al-wala’ wal-bara’) between Muslims.
- Being just in mentioning the praiseworthy and blameworthy qualities of the innovators, accepting the truth that they have, and rejecting their falsehood.
These principles are in agreement with the balanced methodology of this Ummah which Allah has made “a middle nation” (ummatan wasatan) This is the methodology of the Salaf as-Salih… but do they have any Salaf?!?
Fatwa of Sh. ibn Jibreen on Sh. Rabee’s ‘Jarh wat-Ta’deel’
Nov 25th
Q: It is known that Shaykh Rabee bin Haadee al-Madkhalee is the Shaykh of al-Jarh wat-Ta’deel. I heard a tape by him titled The Stance of Ahl us-Sunnah Against Bid’ah. In this tape, he warned against Shaykh Adnan Aal Aroor, and this has caused a commotion here in Algeria. What are your thoughts, O noble shaykh?
Madkhali’s Corrupt Principles: Veiled Takfeer and Outrageous Claims
Mar 13th
http://mareb.org/showthread-t_1684.html
As is well known to many, Rabee al-Madkhali has had his differences for various reasons with a well-respected Salafi Shaykh by the name of Adnan Ar’ur. In fact, he was well respected even amongst Madkhali’s followers (Ramadani cites him as a respected authority in his Madarik al-Nazar) before he crossed paths with Madkhali and Madkhali decided he had to be destroyed. In his typical style, because he is bankrupt of knowledge or proofs, Madkhali resorts to outrageous claims against his opponents. The following are a few examples of his statements against Sh. Adnan, from the tape Inqidad al-Shuhub al-Salafiyya. Firstly, while claiming that Sh. Adnan’s only goal is to divide Salafis worldwide, he declares (1-b):
And by Allah, Islam is not plotted against except with the likes of this man who wears the clothing of Islam, for ibn Saba’ wore the clothing of Islam and destroyed it (sic). Al-Mukhtar ibn Abee Ubayd wore this clothing; Abu Muslim al-Khurasani wore this clothing. Ibn Tomart wore this clothing. Many throughout history have worn this clothing in order to strike Islam, and before them, there was Paul who wore the clothing of Christianity and destroyed it. Likewise, this man wants to destroy the Salafi Manhaj with his false, wicked principles.
From this description, it sounds as if he is accusing Adnan Ar’ur of being a major Munafiq and Zindiq!
Then, in tape (2-a), he addresses Sh. Adnan, saying:
And you fight the people of Tawhid, O Adnan. You fight the people who critique those who espouse Wahdat al-Wujud. For this purpose, you have invented these principles. You fight those who critique those who attack the Prophets. You fight those who critique the ones who attack the Companions of Allah’s Messenger. All of this after you have come across these things and known them. So what salafiyya do you have, O Adnan? What salafiyya do you have except that which you falsely ascribe to yourself so that you may corrupt the Salafi youth worldwide. I don’t think you believe in salafiyya at all, this is what I profess and embrace for Allah’s sake. You only claim something of Salafiyya so that you can misguide the Salafi youth. If you had any bit of Salafiyya with you, you would not have done even some of these things, to say nothing of all of them, because you do not love the truth, and you do not love its people. How can you retract from falsehood which you were raised on and have lived on and for the sake of which you have laid out principles? How will you retract from it….
On side b, he goes on to say:
I have not seen his likes. By Allah, ibn Sa’id who kept Allah’s Messenger and the Companions sleepless did not reach this level of deception and playing around, and yet the Companions did not leave him alone. They kept him restless and circulated that he was al-Dajjal… so Adnan is like this, by Allah, this man did not reach this level of deception… So I am of the view that they (the followers of Adnan) are worse than the Qutbis, more evil than them. At least, the leaders of the Qutbis have some honor and some character and honesty. However, this man is lost, completely lost; no honesty, no valid manhaj, he doesn’t resemble the callers of falsehood nor the callers to Sunnah, and refuge is with Allah!!! At least the callers of falsehood have some shame, and some honor, and some hesitation about lying. This man doesn’t hesitate to lie… He doesn’t care whether people call him a liar or not, he doesn’t care. A man who has dropped to such a level, how can he have any sanctity left in the eyes of those who respect this Manhaj and respect their own reason?!! In any case, we live in an age when – ya’ni – the souls of many people are ready to receive the Dajjal. Many are prepared, and perhaps Adnan and his likes are preparing these souls for receiving the Major Dajjal, Nas’alullah al-Aafiyah. When the soul dies and lying is not longer shameful or embarrassing to it, what good is left in it? What honor can it have left, to say nothing of having any of the Salafi Manhaj left?
And he states (2-a):
The principles Adnan invented, the Qutbis have not invented their like, no one have invented them, not even Shaytan invented such.
Elsewhere, in the tape Liqa’ Abr al-Hatif Min Holanda (side b), he says about the ‘principles’ of Shaykh Adnan:
These new Khawarij and the new Ghulat al-Murji’a have laid down principles which possibly may not have even crosses the mind of Iblis across the length of human history!!
Al-Madkhali should realize he is only digging his grave deeper, and his preposterous accusations and ludicrous claims impress none but his most brainwashed followers. This is just a small example which demonstrates that al-Madkhali himself is truly the role model that his followers emulate in making the absurd, unjust, and unfounded claims about their opponents. Therefore, it is not fair to blame his (ex-)stooges such as Falih al-Harbi or Fawzi al-Bahraini or Abu Khadeeja for the spread of extremism while exonerating al-Madkhali. Finally, al-Madkhali and his follower should realize that their words are being recorded by the angels, and very soon will be the reckoning, Nas’alullah al-Aafiyah…
Falih al-Harbi: Imam of Jarh wal-Ta’dil?
Feb 12th
Abu Khadija and co. posted up the following some years back under the title:
Is shaykh Faalih Al-Harbi an Imaam of Jarh wa Ta’deel in this age?
http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7815&bookmark=0
The following question was put to the Shaykh Allaamah Rabee’ ibn Haadi Al-madkhali:
Is shaykh Faalih Al-Harbi considered to be from the scholars and an Imaam of Jarh wa Ta’deel in this age, and what is the ruling of the one who speaks (ill) of him?
The Shaykh responded:
Shaykh Faalih is from the most knowledgable of the people concerning the manhaj of the salaf and he is one of the most knowledgable of the people concerning the hiding places of the Qutubiyoon, Hizbiyoon and other than them.
And he is truthful in that which he relates upon them and in that which he critcises them for.No one speaks (ill) of him except the people of innovation and misguidance, because he is from those who carry the banner of the sunnah, defends it and calls to it, he does not fear the blame of the one who will criticise and due to this they make war against him and they make war against those who are like him and this is the state of the people of innovation and misguidance in every place and every age.
This is not something which is new to us rather it is something old, from the Khawaarij, Mu’tazilah and the Rawaafid as they used to attack the Imaams of Ahlus Sunnah and accuse them of Hashawiyyah and Guthaa and other than this, this is well known, and every nation has one who will inherit (these characteristics).
And the enemies of the prophets used to attack the prophets, the enemies of the companions used to attack the companions and the enemies of Ahlul Hadeeth used to attack Ahlul Hadeeth, and we Insha Allaah are the inheritors of the prophets and the inheritors of the companions and we call the people to procede upon their way and Manhaj in opposition to other than us and all praise belongs to Allaah.
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=islam&Number=279407&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5
So, one might ask, what became of our erstwhile Imam? Well, what else? He was kicked OFF THE MANHAJ:
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Al-Akh Abu Zakaria, sorry for the late reply. We have only just returned from visiting some of the Mashaayikh in the Mamlakah for advice and direction, and therefore have not been able to view or reply to your post.
Yes we have removed the links and articles of Shaykh Falih, holding that clearly to be the correct position. This issue may confuse a lot of people because it has sprung up quite quickly and has more or less come to its determination fairly quickly as well. However, we must not show ta`assub when the truth becomes clear, regardless of who it is.
The policy we took initially – as we have with previous issues – is to avoid presenting this matter up until the time is appropriate and with precedence from the Mashaayikh. In the initial stage we remained silent following the advice of Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee and Shaykh `Ubayd, and also seeing that Shaykh Rabee` was giving private advice to Shaykh Faalih on a number of issues. Thus, we have been upon the following advice:
quote:
What is taking place between the shabaab of disputation, of acceptance and rejection, and of tension in what relates to the advice of Shaykh Rabee` to Shaykh Faalih was mentioned to the Shaykh, `Allaamah an-Najmee. His reply was on Saturday 26th Rabee` ul-Awwal 1425H, as follows:Bismillaahir-Rahmaanir-Raheem
All praise is due to Allaah, and may the salaat and salaam be upon the Messenger of Allaah, his family, and companions. To proceed:
Then it has reached me that some of the small students of knowledge are speaking in matters that are specific to the Major Scholars, and this is an error on their behalf. For it is not permissible for them to use every anomalous (situation), [such] that when they hear a word, they spread it, and cause alarm and change. And I advise them that they employ forbearance in the affairs and to show calmness and absence of hastiness. And when anything occurs between the senior people of knowledge, that they do not use this situation such that it results in separation. So this (person) supports this one and that person supports that one. I advise them that they do not do this, and that they should fear Allaah regarding themselves, and that they are not the source of fitnah, and the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) [says]: “Make things easy and not difficult and give tidings (to the people) and do not cause them to flee away” (Reported by Muslim). And the affair that is between Shaykh Rabee` and Shaykh Faalih shall be put aright, looking into the affair will be completed – if Allaah wills – by their brothers and associates, and with Allaah lies success.
This naseehah was dicated by the esteemed Shaykh, Ahmad bin Yahyaa an-Najmee
Signed by the Shaykh, Saturday 26th Rabee` ul-Awwal 1425HAnd what was said by Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee was read out to Shaykh `Ubayd al-Jaabiree who said: “We say the same as what was said by Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee, and this is what we advise the youth with and we advise them to adhere to it (this advice)”.
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.p … did=306160
As for now when the affair is open and clear walhamdulillaah, then we have taken the necessary steps. The articles (about four or five in total) that we had on our web page from Shaykh Falih have been withdrawn as an indication of our belief that the truth is with Shaykh Rabee` without doubt and those other Mashaayikh such as Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee. The advice of Shaykh Rabee` to Shaykh Falih had been translated and we will post it very shortly inshaa’Allaah.
In addition, we have had extremely beneficial sittings with Shaykh Rabee` with whom we sat in all of the days we remained in Makkah, and also with Shaykh Waseeullaah, and Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee and also Shaykh Abdullaah al-Bukhaaree. From these meetings we acquired excellent advice and steps for ourselves to both strengthen the Salafee dawah and protect it from potential harms. May Allaah reward these Shaykhs for their concern for the dawah and for their Salafee brothers and sisters in the West.
So, he started out an inheritor of the prophets because of his uncanny gift for chatting up nonsense. When he had a tiff with Rabee, he was declared an opponent of THE MANHAJ (just gives you chills, doesn’t it?):
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=25&Topic=3799
To allow the english reader to familiarise themselves with some of the erroneous principles of Faalih Al-Harbi here is a short translation of an important portion of this article, which Insha Allaah will give the reader some insight into the issue. I ask Allaah that He allows us to see the truth as the truth and to follow it, and He allows us to see falsehood as falsehood so that we can stay far away from it.
Shaykh Rabee said
He and his hidden group have entered the cellars of darkness, twisting, watering down and there defense is with lies and falsification, and they attack either explicitly or indirectly every individual that speaks the truth, to the extent that the abuse has extended to the belittlement of the Imams of Al-Jarh wat Ta’deel and their fundamental (principles). It is mandatory at this point that I elaborate on certain issues that I discussed with him in the two pieces of advice, which I previously overlooked as to show him kindness. It occurred that Faalih had rushed to Tabdee’ (declaring someone to be an innovator) and Tajdee’, so some of the youth requested from him the proofs that support this tabdee’, and they did not find the necessary evidences. Then he resorted to inventing a principle which was to remove tabdee’ from the fundamentals of the Imams of Al-Jarh wat Ta-deel, and he built upon this the differentiation between tabdee’ and Riwaayah. Therefore he believes that it is necessary to ask about the reasons why the Ruwaat (narrators of hadeeth) have been criticized, but when it comes to those who he holds to be innovators then it is not a requirement to ask about the reasons for this tabdee’ and criticism, even if those (spoken against) were from the best of the Salafis, then still he should not be asked for the reasons why they have been declared innovators, instead he declares those who ask for the reasons for this tabdee’ to be innovators. Him founding this as a fundamental (principle) lead to him saying that it is an obligation to blind follow the scholars and not ask them for the proof. Who were those who were being asked to blind follow the scholars? Verily they were intelligent students of knowledge and even some of the teachers amongst them were doctors (from the Islamic universities) and not the common people. He also described those who do not blind follow the scholars as destroying the message of the Messengers or having denied the Book, Sunnah and Islam. He and his followers think that he is the single Imam who protects the religion, so he supports them and they support him to attack the heads of the people of the Sunnah and Jamaa’ah, the strong and weak from them by declaring them innovators and pronouncing tyrannical rulings upon them.
The real reason for the tiff between Rabee and his ex-sidekick Faalih is that Faalih started criticizing one of Rabee’s loyal buddies, Abdul-Malik Ramadani, for refusing to take a position on al-Ma’ribi. This is peculiar as Rabee’ attacked many people himself for not taking a position on al-Ma’ribi. In this respect, one must acknowledge that, to Falih’s credit, he was at least being more consistent than his ex-mentor.
It is worthy of noting as well that Falih was NOT kicked off the manhaj when he did a tele-link with Bilal Davies in which he encouraged his American followers to join the US military so that they could go to Afghanistan to fight “Ahl al-Bida”.
This shows the sick, demented priorities of al-Madkhali and his followers. It also calls into doubt their true allegiances, and so it should be no surprise to anyone to hear of yet another Madkhali working for Western intelligence agencies or for the FBI or similar organizations to gather information, to entrap people, or any other task that their masters request of them.
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