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Madkhali’s Corrupt Principles: Veiled Takfeer and Outrageous Claims
Mar 13th
http://mareb.org/showthread-t_1684.html
As is well known to many, Rabee al-Madkhali has had his differences for various reasons with a well-respected Salafi Shaykh by the name of Adnan Ar’ur. In fact, he was well respected even amongst Madkhali’s followers (Ramadani cites him as a respected authority in his Madarik al-Nazar) before he crossed paths with Madkhali and Madkhali decided he had to be destroyed. In his typical style, because he is bankrupt of knowledge or proofs, Madkhali resorts to outrageous claims against his opponents. The following are a few examples of his statements against Sh. Adnan, from the tape Inqidad al-Shuhub al-Salafiyya. Firstly, while claiming that Sh. Adnan’s only goal is to divide Salafis worldwide, he declares (1-b):
And by Allah, Islam is not plotted against except with the likes of this man who wears the clothing of Islam, for ibn Saba’ wore the clothing of Islam and destroyed it (sic). Al-Mukhtar ibn Abee Ubayd wore this clothing; Abu Muslim al-Khurasani wore this clothing. Ibn Tomart wore this clothing. Many throughout history have worn this clothing in order to strike Islam, and before them, there was Paul who wore the clothing of Christianity and destroyed it. Likewise, this man wants to destroy the Salafi Manhaj with his false, wicked principles.
From this description, it sounds as if he is accusing Adnan Ar’ur of being a major Munafiq and Zindiq!
Then, in tape (2-a), he addresses Sh. Adnan, saying:
And you fight the people of Tawhid, O Adnan. You fight the people who critique those who espouse Wahdat al-Wujud. For this purpose, you have invented these principles. You fight those who critique those who attack the Prophets. You fight those who critique the ones who attack the Companions of Allah’s Messenger. All of this after you have come across these things and known them. So what salafiyya do you have, O Adnan? What salafiyya do you have except that which you falsely ascribe to yourself so that you may corrupt the Salafi youth worldwide. I don’t think you believe in salafiyya at all, this is what I profess and embrace for Allah’s sake. You only claim something of Salafiyya so that you can misguide the Salafi youth. If you had any bit of Salafiyya with you, you would not have done even some of these things, to say nothing of all of them, because you do not love the truth, and you do not love its people. How can you retract from falsehood which you were raised on and have lived on and for the sake of which you have laid out principles? How will you retract from it….
On side b, he goes on to say:
I have not seen his likes. By Allah, ibn Sa’id who kept Allah’s Messenger and the Companions sleepless did not reach this level of deception and playing around, and yet the Companions did not leave him alone. They kept him restless and circulated that he was al-Dajjal… so Adnan is like this, by Allah, this man did not reach this level of deception… So I am of the view that they (the followers of Adnan) are worse than the Qutbis, more evil than them. At least, the leaders of the Qutbis have some honor and some character and honesty. However, this man is lost, completely lost; no honesty, no valid manhaj, he doesn’t resemble the callers of falsehood nor the callers to Sunnah, and refuge is with Allah!!! At least the callers of falsehood have some shame, and some honor, and some hesitation about lying. This man doesn’t hesitate to lie… He doesn’t care whether people call him a liar or not, he doesn’t care. A man who has dropped to such a level, how can he have any sanctity left in the eyes of those who respect this Manhaj and respect their own reason?!! In any case, we live in an age when – ya’ni – the souls of many people are ready to receive the Dajjal. Many are prepared, and perhaps Adnan and his likes are preparing these souls for receiving the Major Dajjal, Nas’alullah al-Aafiyah. When the soul dies and lying is not longer shameful or embarrassing to it, what good is left in it? What honor can it have left, to say nothing of having any of the Salafi Manhaj left?
And he states (2-a):
The principles Adnan invented, the Qutbis have not invented their like, no one have invented them, not even Shaytan invented such.
Elsewhere, in the tape Liqa’ Abr al-Hatif Min Holanda (side b), he says about the ‘principles’ of Shaykh Adnan:
These new Khawarij and the new Ghulat al-Murji’a have laid down principles which possibly may not have even crosses the mind of Iblis across the length of human history!!
Al-Madkhali should realize he is only digging his grave deeper, and his preposterous accusations and ludicrous claims impress none but his most brainwashed followers. This is just a small example which demonstrates that al-Madkhali himself is truly the role model that his followers emulate in making the absurd, unjust, and unfounded claims about their opponents. Therefore, it is not fair to blame his (ex-)stooges such as Falih al-Harbi or Fawzi al-Bahraini or Abu Khadeeja for the spread of extremism while exonerating al-Madkhali. Finally, al-Madkhali and his follower should realize that their words are being recorded by the angels, and very soon will be the reckoning, Nas’alullah al-Aafiyah…
Madkhali’s Corrupt Principles: Tabdee’ by Association
Mar 12th
This courtesy of Salafitalk:
Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee on the Principle: Let us not Make our Disagreement about Someone Else a Cause for Disagreement Between Us
Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee on the Principle: Let us not Make our Disagreement about Someone Else a Cause for Disagreement Between Us – The Scholar of al-Madeenah is asked about one of the corrupt principles of ‘Alee al-Halabee, wherein he says, “It is not permissible for us to make our disagreement with someone else besides us into a disagreement between us.” The Shaykh clarifies the falsehood of this principle and warns against those who have infiltrated into the ranks of Ahlus-Sunnah today. ‘Alee al-Halabee said,
quote:
“And we must not have enmity towards all of the people for the sake of ['Abdur-Rahmaan] ‘Abdul-Khaaliq. We clarify and we say a statement that we have said more than once: It is not permissible for us to make our disagreement with someone else besides us into a disagreement between us.”
Refer to Notification to the Intelligent Part 4 (p. 4, 8-9).
On the first night of Ramadaan, 1429H, Shaykh Rabee’ Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee was asked about the principle, “We must not make our disagreement about someone else a cause for disagreement amongst ourselves.” So the noble Shaykh answered,
“It is a corrupt principle, and with it they want to not perform tabdee’ (declaring one an innovator) and jarh (criticism, disparagement) of those who deserve the jarh and the tabdee’, such as al-Maghraawee, Abul-Hasan al-Ma`ribee and Muhammad Hassaan.”
SOURCE: http://www.sahab.net/forums/showthread.php?t=364982
More to follow on this topic inshaa` Allaah…
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In other words, anyone who does not make tabdee of those who we make tabdee’ of is a mubtadi’. Anyone who associates with someone we make tabdee’ of is a mubtadi, or a hizbi, or his manhaj is in question.
It is significant to note that the ongoing feud between Halabi-Madkhali (or Spubs and Brixton Mosque) is between different strands of Madkhalism, and many of the personalities around which this feud is focused (as Madkhalism is amongst all things obsessed with personalities) are individuals such as al-Maghrawi who very much float in the sphere of Madkhali ideology.
**Note: to see an example of Madkhali extremism, click the Salafitalk link above to this document by this character, al-Za’taree: http://www.sunnahpublishing.net/modules/Manhaj/tanbeehulfateen4.pdf
Rabi al-Madkhali’s Slander of ‘Abdullah ‘Azzam
Feb 13th
Al-Madkhali states in the tape “Munazara An Afghanistan” (cited in al-Jami Fil-Radd Alal-Madkhali Min Ashritatih):
(… وعبد الله عزام وغيره من الإخوان مستعد يعيش مع الروافض مع الخوارج مع كل أهل البدع وما يستطيع يسكت عن السلفية، يستطيع يسكت عن الرفض وأهل الحلول وعن وحدة الوجود وعن كل شيء لكن لا يستطيعون أن [يقام] للسلفية، عبدالله عزامولا غيره، وهذا شيء ملموس، وهذا شيء أنا أعرفه وعايشته من الداخلوالخارج)اهـ“Abdullah Azzam and others from the Ikhwan are prepared to live with the Rawafidh, with the Khawarij, with all the people of innovation… but he is unable to remain quiet about Salafiyyah. He is able to stay quiet about Rafd, about the believers in al-Hulool, about pantheism (Wahdat al-Wujud), about everything… but they cannot stand (unclear word) al-Salafiyyah. (Not) Abdullah Azzam, or anyone else. This is something noticeable, and this is something I know and experienced, from the inside and the outside.”
He also says:
عبد الله عزام أبعد عن المنهج السلفيوأعدى عدو له، كوثري هالك، عبد الله عزام، وما كان تقر عينه إلا بمحاربةالمنهج السلفي، أبو غدّه يقول: أنا سلفي، وهو أكبر عدو للسلفية، وعبد اللهعزام يحارب الألباني ويدافع عن أبي غدّة، ويقول: أنا أستطيع أن أدرّس التوحيد فيلحظة واحدة في نص ساعة، أدرّس التوحيد في نص ساعة: الله فوق، وكذا، خلاص أنا موحد،وكان شغله الشاغل محاربة السلفية)اهـ
“Abdullah Azzam is far away as can be from the Salafi Manhaj ™. He is an extreme Kawtharite… Abdullah Azzam. He would not be satisfied except to make war against the Salafi Manhaj ™. Abu Ghuddah says, “I’m a Salafi,” but he is the greatest enemy of Salafiyyah. Abdullah Azzam makes war against al-Albani and defends Abu Ghuddah. He says, “I can teach Tawhid in a moment… in half an hour… I can teach Tawhid in half an hour… Allah is up, and so forth… That’s it, I’m a Muwahhid.” And his chief preoccupation was making war on Salafiyyah.”
A note of correction for the Imam of Jarh wal-Ta’dil, it seems – and the historical record will back me up on this – his chief preoccupation was making war on the Soviets.
*Note: Sh. Abdullah Azzam’s Salafi Aqidah is well known to all, and hence there is no need to respond to the absurd claim that he is a Kawtharite!
Falih al-Harbi: Imam of Jarh wal-Ta’dil?
Feb 12th
Abu Khadija and co. posted up the following some years back under the title:
Is shaykh Faalih Al-Harbi an Imaam of Jarh wa Ta’deel in this age?
http://salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7815&bookmark=0
The following question was put to the Shaykh Allaamah Rabee’ ibn Haadi Al-madkhali:
Is shaykh Faalih Al-Harbi considered to be from the scholars and an Imaam of Jarh wa Ta’deel in this age, and what is the ruling of the one who speaks (ill) of him?
The Shaykh responded:
Shaykh Faalih is from the most knowledgable of the people concerning the manhaj of the salaf and he is one of the most knowledgable of the people concerning the hiding places of the Qutubiyoon, Hizbiyoon and other than them.
And he is truthful in that which he relates upon them and in that which he critcises them for.No one speaks (ill) of him except the people of innovation and misguidance, because he is from those who carry the banner of the sunnah, defends it and calls to it, he does not fear the blame of the one who will criticise and due to this they make war against him and they make war against those who are like him and this is the state of the people of innovation and misguidance in every place and every age.
This is not something which is new to us rather it is something old, from the Khawaarij, Mu’tazilah and the Rawaafid as they used to attack the Imaams of Ahlus Sunnah and accuse them of Hashawiyyah and Guthaa and other than this, this is well known, and every nation has one who will inherit (these characteristics).
And the enemies of the prophets used to attack the prophets, the enemies of the companions used to attack the companions and the enemies of Ahlul Hadeeth used to attack Ahlul Hadeeth, and we Insha Allaah are the inheritors of the prophets and the inheritors of the companions and we call the people to procede upon their way and Manhaj in opposition to other than us and all praise belongs to Allaah.
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=islam&Number=279407&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5
So, one might ask, what became of our erstwhile Imam? Well, what else? He was kicked OFF THE MANHAJ:
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Al-Akh Abu Zakaria, sorry for the late reply. We have only just returned from visiting some of the Mashaayikh in the Mamlakah for advice and direction, and therefore have not been able to view or reply to your post.
Yes we have removed the links and articles of Shaykh Falih, holding that clearly to be the correct position. This issue may confuse a lot of people because it has sprung up quite quickly and has more or less come to its determination fairly quickly as well. However, we must not show ta`assub when the truth becomes clear, regardless of who it is.
The policy we took initially – as we have with previous issues – is to avoid presenting this matter up until the time is appropriate and with precedence from the Mashaayikh. In the initial stage we remained silent following the advice of Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee and Shaykh `Ubayd, and also seeing that Shaykh Rabee` was giving private advice to Shaykh Faalih on a number of issues. Thus, we have been upon the following advice:
quote:
What is taking place between the shabaab of disputation, of acceptance and rejection, and of tension in what relates to the advice of Shaykh Rabee` to Shaykh Faalih was mentioned to the Shaykh, `Allaamah an-Najmee. His reply was on Saturday 26th Rabee` ul-Awwal 1425H, as follows:Bismillaahir-Rahmaanir-Raheem
All praise is due to Allaah, and may the salaat and salaam be upon the Messenger of Allaah, his family, and companions. To proceed:
Then it has reached me that some of the small students of knowledge are speaking in matters that are specific to the Major Scholars, and this is an error on their behalf. For it is not permissible for them to use every anomalous (situation), [such] that when they hear a word, they spread it, and cause alarm and change. And I advise them that they employ forbearance in the affairs and to show calmness and absence of hastiness. And when anything occurs between the senior people of knowledge, that they do not use this situation such that it results in separation. So this (person) supports this one and that person supports that one. I advise them that they do not do this, and that they should fear Allaah regarding themselves, and that they are not the source of fitnah, and the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) [says]: “Make things easy and not difficult and give tidings (to the people) and do not cause them to flee away” (Reported by Muslim). And the affair that is between Shaykh Rabee` and Shaykh Faalih shall be put aright, looking into the affair will be completed – if Allaah wills – by their brothers and associates, and with Allaah lies success.
This naseehah was dicated by the esteemed Shaykh, Ahmad bin Yahyaa an-Najmee
Signed by the Shaykh, Saturday 26th Rabee` ul-Awwal 1425HAnd what was said by Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee was read out to Shaykh `Ubayd al-Jaabiree who said: “We say the same as what was said by Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee, and this is what we advise the youth with and we advise them to adhere to it (this advice)”.
http://www.sahab.net/sahab/showthread.p … did=306160
As for now when the affair is open and clear walhamdulillaah, then we have taken the necessary steps. The articles (about four or five in total) that we had on our web page from Shaykh Falih have been withdrawn as an indication of our belief that the truth is with Shaykh Rabee` without doubt and those other Mashaayikh such as Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee. The advice of Shaykh Rabee` to Shaykh Falih had been translated and we will post it very shortly inshaa’Allaah.
In addition, we have had extremely beneficial sittings with Shaykh Rabee` with whom we sat in all of the days we remained in Makkah, and also with Shaykh Waseeullaah, and Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee and also Shaykh Abdullaah al-Bukhaaree. From these meetings we acquired excellent advice and steps for ourselves to both strengthen the Salafee dawah and protect it from potential harms. May Allaah reward these Shaykhs for their concern for the dawah and for their Salafee brothers and sisters in the West.
So, he started out an inheritor of the prophets because of his uncanny gift for chatting up nonsense. When he had a tiff with Rabee, he was declared an opponent of THE MANHAJ (just gives you chills, doesn’t it?):
http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=25&Topic=3799
To allow the english reader to familiarise themselves with some of the erroneous principles of Faalih Al-Harbi here is a short translation of an important portion of this article, which Insha Allaah will give the reader some insight into the issue. I ask Allaah that He allows us to see the truth as the truth and to follow it, and He allows us to see falsehood as falsehood so that we can stay far away from it.
Shaykh Rabee said
He and his hidden group have entered the cellars of darkness, twisting, watering down and there defense is with lies and falsification, and they attack either explicitly or indirectly every individual that speaks the truth, to the extent that the abuse has extended to the belittlement of the Imams of Al-Jarh wat Ta’deel and their fundamental (principles). It is mandatory at this point that I elaborate on certain issues that I discussed with him in the two pieces of advice, which I previously overlooked as to show him kindness. It occurred that Faalih had rushed to Tabdee’ (declaring someone to be an innovator) and Tajdee’, so some of the youth requested from him the proofs that support this tabdee’, and they did not find the necessary evidences. Then he resorted to inventing a principle which was to remove tabdee’ from the fundamentals of the Imams of Al-Jarh wat Ta-deel, and he built upon this the differentiation between tabdee’ and Riwaayah. Therefore he believes that it is necessary to ask about the reasons why the Ruwaat (narrators of hadeeth) have been criticized, but when it comes to those who he holds to be innovators then it is not a requirement to ask about the reasons for this tabdee’ and criticism, even if those (spoken against) were from the best of the Salafis, then still he should not be asked for the reasons why they have been declared innovators, instead he declares those who ask for the reasons for this tabdee’ to be innovators. Him founding this as a fundamental (principle) lead to him saying that it is an obligation to blind follow the scholars and not ask them for the proof. Who were those who were being asked to blind follow the scholars? Verily they were intelligent students of knowledge and even some of the teachers amongst them were doctors (from the Islamic universities) and not the common people. He also described those who do not blind follow the scholars as destroying the message of the Messengers or having denied the Book, Sunnah and Islam. He and his followers think that he is the single Imam who protects the religion, so he supports them and they support him to attack the heads of the people of the Sunnah and Jamaa’ah, the strong and weak from them by declaring them innovators and pronouncing tyrannical rulings upon them.
The real reason for the tiff between Rabee and his ex-sidekick Faalih is that Faalih started criticizing one of Rabee’s loyal buddies, Abdul-Malik Ramadani, for refusing to take a position on al-Ma’ribi. This is peculiar as Rabee’ attacked many people himself for not taking a position on al-Ma’ribi. In this respect, one must acknowledge that, to Falih’s credit, he was at least being more consistent than his ex-mentor.
It is worthy of noting as well that Falih was NOT kicked off the manhaj when he did a tele-link with Bilal Davies in which he encouraged his American followers to join the US military so that they could go to Afghanistan to fight “Ahl al-Bida”.
This shows the sick, demented priorities of al-Madkhali and his followers. It also calls into doubt their true allegiances, and so it should be no surprise to anyone to hear of yet another Madkhali working for Western intelligence agencies or for the FBI or similar organizations to gather information, to entrap people, or any other task that their masters request of them.
Sayyid Qutb an Ash’ari?
Jan 15th
It has been suggested by some that Syed Qutb was an Ash’ari. The response is two-fold. Number one, does being an Ash’ari mean that one cannot be a hero of Islam? Salah al-Din al-Ayyubi, the liberator of al-Quds, has proved that is not the case. Secondly, the claim is simply not true.
Syed Qutb certainly did not advocate Ash’arism! The Ash’ari scholars have a hard enough time understanding Ash’arism, someone untrained like Syed Qutb certainly could not. The fact that he may have used some expressions that contradict the Adiqa of the Salaf concerning the Sifat was incidental and a result of the environment in which he was raised. Unlike Zamakhshari or al-Razi, for example, he is by no means attempting to lay the groundwork for Ilm al-Kalam based Aqidah. He is not presenting arguments or shubuhat. More >
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